Nope, they are direct upgrades on lower-tier shards and you can't double slot the same shard. Once you obtain a higher-tier shard you can dump the lower tier. Shards of the same type and tier can be combined to increase the resonance level.
I don't think the Deflector Shields settings are working, no matter what I set it to, it will only block an attack if that attack would kill me. Now, that's not bad, and maybe should be a setting, but I've got it set to block anything above 50% max shield, and i'm taking a hit from a Hull Big Weapon enemy on zone 45A that is doing about 90% of my shield in one hit. The deflector blocks the second one while my shield is still recharging, but it shows that they listed settings are not what is happening.
I think you may have messed up a bit on your balancing of the Continuous Generator. The output maxing is just superior now, as it increases actual shield regen by 5x than without, while condensed sheilds increases it by 1.3x, so you may want to re-look at those numbers.
Bug: Compute challenge - Cannot move forward after retreat from loosing shields without reloading the game.
Also should the first compute challenge take so long (started since the first update and still on it) for a sector 34+ person to just do the first completion?
I don't get that behavior. So There must be something a bit more specific about what's happening.
as for completing it yes you should be able to complete a couple probably. I don't want to put the solution right here in the comments. but consider the implications of the multiplier bonus :p
Hmm, It tried another challenge (synth) and I got the same thing with the retreat. I decided to cancel that and spend some time in normal then retry the other challenges and was able to retreat without restart.
As for the Compute challenge, I wonder if it is because I am missing the warp/compute multiplier. All the other ones i have active including the module and pink devices so I am not sure yet
synth starting materials still definitely are there for the synth challenge right now. it extremely trivializes it, though i would have3 been able to do most of it anyhow.
Would be nice if it loaded the cloud save, if there's an account logged in, before loading the local save, i almost lost a day of progress because i play from two different pcs
Dang, That ship has partially sailed due to my terrible UI design the skills I think. is it even the bigger text is difficult to read? or just all of "normal" Sized text?
Definitely my favorite idle game so far. Cannot wait for even more features. This scratches and itch that most idle games don't seem to have which is everything you do affects the "main" gameplay (ship/battle area)
I hope there are a ton more ship types planned like Battlecruisers, Battleships, Dreadnought and Carriers. Maybe different hardpoints sizes and weapon sizes?
I would add that some shards need a balance pass for stacking.
Example - The Research shard can stack Observation and Energy with the Flex Shard but you cannot do that with Material as they are they are both Red. Not sure if intended, but odd for Material to get singled out to not get the stacking benefits.
Also, V device needs loadouts. I am sector 28 so I am not sure if it ever get them.
I've been having quite a bit of fun with this! However, I've run into an annoyance with the warp system. If I close the game (browser on itch.io) while a warp is open, then the next time I open the game, my warp core will be used up but I won't have received the warp essence reward. I keep forgetting to click "close warp" before I close the game itself. Is it possible to make the game give the reward next time the game is opened?
Oh, so you dont close it and dont trigger the rewards. That makes sense. Ill work on a way to handle that. Might be a bit though so try to remember for now :p
Is there an "impossible" difficulty spike at the end of the available content to prevent going into undefined territory? The difference between 40 and 40.5 seems utterly staggering, but it lines up with "content available up to 6200".
yes that sector scales impossibly. So the 40.5 warp won't be doable either. That scaling will be put in line with the other sectors in the next content update in a week or so here
An upgrade to Synth that lets you queue things better would be cool. Like split Synth 1 and 2 from 3 and 4 so I can have 1 and 2 Smart Synthing Circuitry and 3 and 4 Smart Synthing Focusers without 1 and 2 taking all of the Alloy since Circuitry is cheaper and preventing 3 and 4 from ever making any Focusers.
Kinda annoying that for some reason the game is constantly telling me that there's an update and I should save and refresh...when I did so not even five minutes ago.
A lot of this is great, but base building fundamentally doesn't work as a prestige mechanic because your reward isn't based on the content that gets reset, its progress is almost entirely independent of the main game.
Also you can cheese a lot of things by toggling core upgrade option things. Like switching to active ability duration/cooldown, activating active ability, then switching back to the passive boost. Or switching the beam from ramp up to power if it's already targeting something.
this is definitely a low prestige frequency game. The base is just to give you some reason to prestige sometimes especially especially once you have retrofits to use. I agree that it's a bit disconnected however.
As for the cheese stuff, toggling the core options and modules to eek more power out is entirely intentional. being able to "pro gamer" it a bit to kill a boss slightly sooner is cool imo.
Great so far. Tried setting up a cloud save and it claims the account already exists, which I feel is unlikely. Could you check cloud account "vaxhax" ? Maybe it got corrupted at create time. thanks!
there's a bug in the current version that screws this up. I can fix it for you if you give me your Player ID in the bottom left of the settings screen, its just a random ID so you can post it here no worries.
Really enjoying the game so far. I haven't reached the Warp stage of the game yet, so I'm not sure if this is one of the upgrades, but I would really like to be able to stack shields rather than split damage between them. That would open up some configurations like using a Bulk generator behind a Continuous generator so that minor damage doesn't reset the regen delay on the bulk generator.
I could see it being an option like the "targeting" options for weapons, but you select `Layer: Outer/Inner` to designate which shields would take damage first.
This seems like it would be a good feature to add as a module, that way you have to tie up a module slot in order to take advantage of it.
I particularly love the tooltips on various stats and multipliers, and I wish more idle games did this. Understanding the math that goes into each feature makes a huge difference in my ability to optimize and my overall satisfaction. Great work Sylv!
For the Unbound Research, some sort of progress indicator to go up to the next tier would be cool, like how long/how many points needed to go from 1x to 2x, etc
The most recent version that I just updated too broke the update all button for the core upgrades. It is now able to buy an upgrade for all the cores even if you don't have the scrap to pay for any of them.
Thats fixed. If you're still on that version feel free to have fun I suppose Just be careful with making the number go too high that it screws up your save.
The Flex Shard II updated version will discard additional shards if it was counted as completed before updating to 100 in lieu of 50. I think a check list menu of currently discovered shards that we would like to be automatically discarded would be nice as a fix but whatever works easiest is fine with me.
Enjoying the game so far but looks like there's no way to un-focus research after it's been focused? I tried unchecking the box but it doesn't do anything. All I can seem to do is focus it elsewhere and not unlock the focus at all.
That's by design. Focusing makes that research faster. It doesn't make the others slower. So there's no reason to ever unfocus. You always want one of the categories focused.
I was stuck on level 17 for 2 days because I didn't know you could paint over the squares in your base for prestige bonuses. I must've skipped the tutorial pop up and there isn't any info on the prestige tab about base management. I only found out because I looked at the screenshots.
Great game! I've been enjoying it for a few weeks now and I'm appreciating all the QOL and balance updates.
I've noticed that the energy voids will sometimes appear mostly off the edge of the screen, making them difficult to see and click. I believe that sometimes they may also appear entirely off-screen or possibly behind the UI buttons for shield boosts/volleys/etc, as there have been some very long periods where I can't seem to find any at all.
Very nice game, it can be both more interactive or idle, which is perfect for when you have more or less time to dedicate.
Lots of content and also a very nice prestige system, in other games doing prestige is a bit painful but here is a real pleasure just to get the next new toy.
My most pressing annoyance is that I play on linux, which uses "alt+click" for its own purposes. Which means I have to drag and drag all those crystals to merge them. I will soon unlock the AI thing, but a way to remap such buttons would be very appreciated.
Oh shoot, the last update made discarding possible for Mac, but I didn't realize altclick was also an issue for some people on Linux ><. I'll look into double click to merge or a merge all button or something.
Unsure what's causing it, but the module costs I have pinned to the Synth screen change the order they're in. Like, I'll pin them in order left to right but now the Salvage Gain module cost is on the far right
I've seen this as well. The order only seems to change after I've upgraded the modules, with the most recently updated module moving to the end of the list.
Just for the suggestions box: Some sort of indicator for what turrets are where on the ship customization screen. Something like numbers on the ship graphic?
There seems to be an issue with the 'shards gained' offline calculation. Just now the "resources received while away" screen claimed i had gotten 234 more compute shard IV, but then i only had *12* more gained when i looked at my actual shard counts. This is with auto merge on, auto discard off, and with my existing compute shard in the orange slot when i turned off the game last night.
Something might be slightly off with the running in the background bit, when the "Resources Gained While Away" window pops up it turns off all of the reactor modules. =)
Update: It was doing it with consistent repeatability, but now it's not, but I haven't refreshed the page since. Will keep an eye on it.
Update2: okay, I'm not sure how much leeway there is, but it seems like if your Void Power Generation per second is not far above your consumption (example, I currently have it operating at around 2 void power generated per second more than is being spent) and the reactor modules get turned off when the window pops up
There seems to be either a display or calculation bug with the improved tracking (% increase in damage from kills) upgrade for at least the kinetic cannon (not sure about the others, or the shield equivalents; only have my kinetic cannons up to that point in this run). The upgrade claims to give ~3.77x increase, but the actual increase in damage, and the value shown in the damage calculation itself, is ~2.18x
I noticed a bug in the prestige screen where the upgrade display at the bottom of the screen was empty and contained a button instead of the usual stuff. After pressing it, most of the game glitched out. Bullets froze when fired, enemies didn't die when their hp reached zero. I restarted the game and now attempting to synth a different resource shows nothing at all. Reloading/ascending doesn't fix it. I'm completely locked out of synth resources.
Ok, this is great! Humble requests please... in the Synth/Synth screen, you've got the list of materials in the top right with the totals. Can it be a tool tip to show the level of that resource as you hover over please? I'm always going to the "select asset to work with" to see the other asset levels for what I should burn some resources on before prestige resetting.
And done! Thank you! I /might/ be having some odd bugs with reactor purchases not being 1 or 2, but hundreds of thousands. Should I dump my save game here or is there a better way of doing that!
Account made, JyveAFK. I spent a run maxing my Void Power Generation capacity to buy some upgrades, but instead of just getting another one extra rank, if you hit max on.. Boost Synth Speed, it goes to 105 instead of 8 like it should have. All the 'max' values didn't just add a single level, but far more than expected for trying to buy one more level.
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Do lower level void shards matter at all?
since I'm running out of space with the two from area 42.
Nope, they are direct upgrades on lower-tier shards and you can't double slot the same shard. Once you obtain a higher-tier shard you can dump the lower tier. Shards of the same type and tier can be combined to increase the resonance level.
Haha, well it certainly looks nice
I don't think the Deflector Shields settings are working, no matter what I set it to, it will only block an attack if that attack would kill me. Now, that's not bad, and maybe should be a setting, but I've got it set to block anything above 50% max shield, and i'm taking a hit from a Hull Big Weapon enemy on zone 45A that is doing about 90% of my shield in one hit. The deflector blocks the second one while my shield is still recharging, but it shows that they listed settings are not what is happening.
there is a bug reported related to this. It seems to work some of the time and then stop working for people.
Do you recall if it was working at all for you at some point?
I think you may have messed up a bit on your balancing of the Continuous Generator. The output maxing is just superior now, as it increases actual shield regen by 5x than without, while condensed sheilds increases it by 1.3x, so you may want to re-look at those numbers.
Bug: Compute challenge - Cannot move forward after retreat from loosing shields without reloading the game.
Also should the first compute challenge take so long (started since the first update and still on it) for a sector 34+ person to just do the first completion?
I don't get that behavior. So There must be something a bit more specific about what's happening.
as for completing it yes you should be able to complete a couple probably. I don't want to put the solution right here in the comments. but consider the implications of the multiplier bonus :p
Hmm, It tried another challenge (synth) and I got the same thing with the retreat. I decided to cancel that and spend some time in normal then retry the other challenges and was able to retreat without restart.
As for the Compute challenge, I wonder if it is because I am missing the warp/compute multiplier. All the other ones i have active including the module and pink devices so I am not sure yet
it seemed to actually be related to the timing of dying, but just worked out that way very easily in challenges. it should be fixed
shields are set to max void power during power challenge instead of current void power.
textual error. fixed
synth starting materials still definitely are there for the synth challenge right now. it extremely trivializes it, though i would have3 been able to do most of it anyhow.
Suggestions?
Later weapon types have additional abilities that can help with targeting.
Ex.
-Bomb launcher has aoe effect that can maybe be upgraded in research or Warp
-Charge shot can hit multiple enemies in a line or can "arc" to another enemy.
-More upgrades to firerate for weapons and/or "time accelerator" in Reactor that can speed up the waves for energy cost.
I like the arc idea. And the waves wave speed up thing is actually something that went in this most recent patch but it's a module
Some additional effects including the ones above :
Railgun effect that passes through enemies in a straight line
Arc - Arc to 1 or multiple targets
Aoe - Just a small aoe explosion on hit
Radiation field- leaves an area that does DOT damage
I've had some rounding errors where, EG: My blue upgrade for base 1 will display a price of 10e22 instead of 1e23
This occasionally happens to me, too
Would be nice if it loaded the cloud save, if there's an account logged in, before loading the local save, i almost lost a day of progress because i play from two different pcs
Added a check and prompt to load it when you load in on this last patch
fantastic, thanks!
the game is too big screen-wise. trying to play as a visually impaired person and everything is TINY of i try to fir it into the screen dimensions
Dang, That ship has partially sailed due to my terrible UI design the skills I think. is it even the bigger text is difficult to read? or just all of "normal" Sized text?
Mosty the normal-sized stuff
Definitely my favorite idle game so far. Cannot wait for even more features. This scratches and itch that most idle games don't seem to have which is everything you do affects the "main" gameplay (ship/battle area)
I hope there are a ton more ship types planned like Battlecruisers, Battleships, Dreadnought and Carriers. Maybe different hardpoints sizes and weapon sizes?
Yup, those things are a coming! Thanks for the feedback.
I would add that some shards need a balance pass for stacking.
Example - The Research shard can stack Observation and Energy with the Flex Shard but you cannot do that with Material as they are they are both Red. Not sure if intended, but odd for Material to get singled out to not get the stacking benefits.
Also, V device needs loadouts. I am sector 28 so I am not sure if it ever get them.
For the loadout part. do you just mean a loadout for itself alone? the load outs up up top effect the V device.
For the V Device itself... Basically Shard Loadouts so we can quickly swap to research, or attack, or salvage loadouts.
I've been having quite a bit of fun with this! However, I've run into an annoyance with the warp system. If I close the game (browser on itch.io) while a warp is open, then the next time I open the game, my warp core will be used up but I won't have received the warp essence reward. I keep forgetting to click "close warp" before I close the game itself. Is it possible to make the game give the reward next time the game is opened?
Oh, so you dont close it and dont trigger the rewards. That makes sense. Ill work on a way to handle that. Might be a bit though so try to remember for now :p
Thanks for looking into it! The warps are a fun mechanic, I'm just forgetful, so I'll try my best to close it before I close the game.
Hey there! This is a fantastic game, do you have an email for business inquiries?
I do not :(
you can hit up my personal email for now. rankith117 at gmail
Is there an "impossible" difficulty spike at the end of the available content to prevent going into undefined territory? The difference between 40 and 40.5 seems utterly staggering, but it lines up with "content available up to 6200".
yes that sector scales impossibly. So the 40.5 warp won't be doable either. That scaling will be put in line with the other sectors in the next content update in a week or so here
An upgrade to Synth that lets you queue things better would be cool. Like split Synth 1 and 2 from 3 and 4 so I can have 1 and 2 Smart Synthing Circuitry and 3 and 4 Smart Synthing Focusers without 1 and 2 taking all of the Alloy since Circuitry is cheaper and preventing 3 and 4 from ever making any Focusers.
Do you have a changelog of what was fixed or tweaked during each update?
Click the version number button near the top for a at least partially complete list.
Kinda annoying that for some reason the game is constantly telling me that there's an update and I should save and refresh...when I did so not even five minutes ago.
Should be fixed on this latest update
A lot of this is great, but base building fundamentally doesn't work as a prestige mechanic because your reward isn't based on the content that gets reset, its progress is almost entirely independent of the main game.
Also you can cheese a lot of things by toggling core upgrade option things. Like switching to active ability duration/cooldown, activating active ability, then switching back to the passive boost. Or switching the beam from ramp up to power if it's already targeting something.
this is definitely a low prestige frequency game. The base is just to give you some reason to prestige sometimes especially especially once you have retrofits to use. I agree that it's a bit disconnected however.
As for the cheese stuff, toggling the core options and modules to eek more power out is entirely intentional. being able to "pro gamer" it a bit to kill a boss slightly sooner is cool imo.
Great so far. Tried setting up a cloud save and it claims the account already exists, which I feel is unlikely. Could you check cloud account "vaxhax" ? Maybe it got corrupted at create time. thanks!
there's a bug in the current version that screws this up. I can fix it for you if you give me your Player ID in the bottom left of the settings screen, its just a random ID so you can post it here no worries.
Sure thing, 64517fb1-9fdd-43c5-8543-39dec600c6ec . Thanks!
OK try to login now.
thank you, got in!
Really enjoying the game so far. I haven't reached the Warp stage of the game yet, so I'm not sure if this is one of the upgrades, but I would really like to be able to stack shields rather than split damage between them. That would open up some configurations like using a Bulk generator behind a Continuous generator so that minor damage doesn't reset the regen delay on the bulk generator.
I could see it being an option like the "targeting" options for weapons, but you select `Layer: Outer/Inner` to designate which shields would take damage first.
This seems like it would be a good feature to add as a module, that way you have to tie up a module slot in order to take advantage of it.
that's an interesting idea!
In intro it should be "humanity hadn't yet reached"
I particularly love the tooltips on various stats and multipliers, and I wish more idle games did this. Understanding the math that goes into each feature makes a huge difference in my ability to optimize and my overall satisfaction. Great work Sylv!
For the Unbound Research, some sort of progress indicator to go up to the next tier would be cool, like how long/how many points needed to go from 1x to 2x, etc
The most recent version that I just updated too broke the update all button for the core upgrades. It is now able to buy an upgrade for all the cores even if you don't have the scrap to pay for any of them.
Thats fixed. If you're still on that version feel free to have fun I suppose Just be careful with making the number go too high that it screws up your save.
The Flex Shard II updated version will discard additional shards if it was counted as completed before updating to 100 in lieu of 50. I think a check list menu of currently discovered shards that we would like to be automatically discarded would be nice as a fix but whatever works easiest is fine with me.
Enjoying the game so far but looks like there's no way to un-focus research after it's been focused? I tried unchecking the box but it doesn't do anything. All I can seem to do is focus it elsewhere and not unlock the focus at all.
There is no need to unfocus. You still get research in all fields. The focused one get a boost.
Ah! My bad, I misunderstood what the focus was for xD
That's by design. Focusing makes that research faster. It doesn't make the others slower. So there's no reason to ever unfocus. You always want one of the categories focused.
I was stuck on level 17 for 2 days because I didn't know you could paint over the squares in your base for prestige bonuses. I must've skipped the tutorial pop up and there isn't any info on the prestige tab about base management. I only found out because I looked at the screenshots.
Thanks for the feedback, I added a better hover tooltip and an info box.
Another for the suggestions box: Shard Drop Rate in Sector Data updating to show actual % chance based on current buffs you have?
Good idea!
Great game! I've been enjoying it for a few weeks now and I'm appreciating all the QOL and balance updates.
I've noticed that the energy voids will sometimes appear mostly off the edge of the screen, making them difficult to see and click. I believe that sometimes they may also appear entirely off-screen or possibly behind the UI buttons for shield boosts/volleys/etc, as there have been some very long periods where I can't seem to find any at all.
Very nice game, it can be both more interactive or idle, which is perfect for when you have more or less time to dedicate.
Lots of content and also a very nice prestige system, in other games doing prestige is a bit painful but here is a real pleasure just to get the next new toy.
Good job!
This is a lot of fun.
My most pressing annoyance is that I play on linux, which uses "alt+click" for its own purposes. Which means I have to drag and drag all those crystals to merge them. I will soon unlock the AI thing, but a way to remap such buttons would be very appreciated.
Oh shoot, the last update made discarding possible for Mac, but I didn't realize altclick was also an issue for some people on Linux ><. I'll look into double click to merge or a merge all button or something.
Added double click to merge in last update
Thanks for making this I am having tonnes of fun!
Unsure what's causing it, but the module costs I have pinned to the Synth screen change the order they're in. Like, I'll pin them in order left to right but now the Salvage Gain module cost is on the far right
I haven't run into this. figured it might be on a load or a prestige, but it doesn't seem to trigger that behavior for me.
I'll keep an eye on it, try and pin down what I do before it happens
I've seen this as well. The order only seems to change after I've upgraded the modules, with the most recently updated module moving to the end of the list.
The ctrl + click to delete shards doesn't seem to work on Mac.
oh I didnt even think of that. hmmmmmm. ill try to figure something out, no Mac for testing though
What engine is this made in?
If itch support private builds you can share I can test this for you.
work's on mac in chrome 109.0.5
That's interesting, I'm using Firefox, so it might be a Firefox or Firefox + Max issue?
Just for the suggestions box: Some sort of indicator for what turrets are where on the ship customization screen. Something like numbers on the ship graphic?
Ill think about this a bit. I did fix the turret order so its at least intuitive though.
No worries, making it match the UI order makes much more sense XD
There seems to be an issue with the 'shards gained' offline calculation. Just now the "resources received while away" screen claimed i had gotten 234 more compute shard IV, but then i only had *12* more gained when i looked at my actual shard counts. This is with auto merge on, auto discard off, and with my existing compute shard in the orange slot when i turned off the game last night.
Should be fixed now.
Something might be slightly off with the running in the background bit, when the "Resources Gained While Away" window pops up it turns off all of the reactor modules. =)
Update: It was doing it with consistent repeatability, but now it's not, but I haven't refreshed the page since. Will keep an eye on it.
Update2: okay, I'm not sure how much leeway there is, but it seems like if your Void Power Generation per second is not far above your consumption (example, I currently have it operating at around 2 void power generated per second more than is being spent) and the reactor modules get turned off when the window pops up
there was a bug that was kind of related to this. I just fixed it. let me know if it still occurs for you.
Will do!
There seems to be either a display or calculation bug with the improved tracking (% increase in damage from kills) upgrade for at least the kinetic cannon (not sure about the others, or the shield equivalents; only have my kinetic cannons up to that point in this run). The upgrade claims to give ~3.77x increase, but the actual increase in damage, and the value shown in the damage calculation itself, is ~2.18x
I looks like the tool tip on the node itself isn't taking the taking the soft cap into account. thanks for the heads up I'll get that fixed
I noticed a bug in the prestige screen where the upgrade display at the bottom of the screen was empty and contained a button instead of the usual stuff. After pressing it, most of the game glitched out. Bullets froze when fired, enemies didn't die when their hp reached zero. I restarted the game and now attempting to synth a different resource shows nothing at all. Reloading/ascending doesn't fix it. I'm completely locked out of synth resources.
same bug here pressing the "1.0" button after selecting the frigate ship type it exits the game and everything is bugged =/
Ok, this is great!
Humble requests please...
in the Synth/Synth screen, you've got the list of materials in the top right with the totals. Can it be a tool tip to show the level of that resource as you hover over please? I'm always going to the "select asset to work with" to see the other asset levels for what I should burn some resources on before prestige resetting.
Great idea, ill get that in at somepoint. thanks!
And done! Thank you!
I /might/ be having some odd bugs with reactor purchases not being 1 or 2, but hundreds of thousands. Should I dump my save game here or is there a better way of doing that!
Im not 100% sure what you mean, post a pic or your save file (or setup the cloud saves and tell me the username) and I can look into it.
Account made, JyveAFK.
I spent a run maxing my Void Power Generation capacity to buy some upgrades, but instead of just getting another one extra rank, if you hit max on.. Boost Synth Speed, it goes to 105 instead of 8 like it should have. All the 'max' values didn't just add a single level, but far more than expected for trying to buy one more level.
OK I found the issue thanks. Next update (prolly this next weekend) Ill have a fix for that happening and setting your max back correctly.